Talk
by Retired Indian Army General Ashok Mehta
On
Repairing Nepal-India Relations
July
18, 2016
[Abstract
of the address: Retired Major General Ashok Mehta observed in his address that
many changes took place in and around our region and added that the relations
between India and Nepal should be based on equal footings. He also said that
India on its part should not try to micromanage the Nepalese affairs. He added
that both sides should be cognizant of this fact.]
It
is a great honor for me to be here in front of people who conduct the foreign
policy of Nepal. I am a good friend of Nepal and I have spent a lot of time
here. My association with the Gurkha regiment is still strong. I came here
first during the time of King Mahendra’s reign in 1959 and at that time
relations between India and Nepal was very bad. I was a young second lieutenant
when I first came here to Nepal. I have literally walked from Mechi [Eastern
border of Nepal] to Mahakali [Western
border
of Nepal].
In those days, Kathmandu was Nepal. Life was Kathmandu-centric. Now, that deficiency has been repaired to some extent by the federal system. All the relations that India has with Nepal are is the most vital. They are also the most unique relation. Nowhere in the world do you have an open border and 7-10 million Nepalis are inside India at any one time. Nepalese enjoy in India all the benefits that Indian citizens enjoy. Nepalis can even become Army Chief of Staff in India. The only post that Nepalese cannot achieve is the Foreign Secretary.
When
you have such a close relationship, there are bound to be some irritants. In
this region, only Nepal, Bhutan and Thailand are the countries that have never
been colonized and so Nepalese have a good reason to feel proud. Nepalese
should be proud of your strategic autonomy. Prithvi Narayan Shah had described
Nepal as a yam between two rocks. Now that analogy is no longer relevant. India
and China are two giants, fast-growing economies. You are in a position to take
advantage of this. However, you have also used your geostrategic space to your
advantage.
You
have used China against India. That is understandable. I want to stress the
point about the location of Nepal. General Sinha told me that King Birendra once
asked him why India doesn’t consider Nepal to be an important country in the
1990s after the restoration of multiparty democracy. A lot of people, like
General Sinha, have failed to see the geostrategic importance of Nepal. I think
that for India, Nepal has the highest geostrategic value. Prime Minister Modi
wanted to visit Nepal first; however he went to Bhutan. Nepal guards its
sovereign space because it doesn’t’ want to be seen like Bhutan. I think there is
no comparison between Nepal and Bhutan. India’s relations with Nepal are different
from its relations with Bhutan.
The
third point: India has been involved in all the major changes that have taken
place in Nepal-- right from 1950. India played a very important part in
recalibrating the relation between the Ranas, the Monarchy and the Nepali
Congress. In 1990, India played a big role for the restoration of democracy in
Nepal. In 2005, India brokered the deal that led to the bringing of the Seven Party
Alliance and the Maoists together and the signing of the Delhi Declaration and
the 12- Point Agreement. India’s objective from 2006 onwards has always been
(or was) the mainstreaming of the Maoists and the democratization of Nepalese
polity. India-Nepal relations were based on a two-pillar policy --
constitutional monarchy and multiparty democracy. There is a new political
scene following the Maoist revolution and that has not been recognized in its
entirety by the people of India. What has happened is that you have new
political actors -- who themselves are divided.
The
exercise of mainstreaming the Maoists has not been done yet. There are also
Madhesis and marginalized groups whose grievances have not been addressed in their
entirety. We in India have a new government. This is a substantially different
government from past governments. For the first time in 30 years, this
government has had a majority on its own. Compare that to the situation in
Nepal. One of the reasons that there is political instability in Nepal is
because no single party has a majority in Parliament comparable to the
situation in India.
Significant
change has occurred in Nepal; however, many Nepalese have not recognized this because
you are too close to the change. The way that Indian diplomats handled the
perceived deficiencies in the Constitution and the way that they tried to get
it rectified was anything but diplomatic. One of India’s greatest concerns emanating
from the open border is security. I look at the open border of Nepal and wonder
what might be coming from China.
I
look at China as both a threat and opportunity for India. In 1975, I was the
group leader of a group called ‘Operation Tribhuvan’ and in that year we predicted
the Maoist insurgency and the fall of the monarchy. We also predicted that in
the event there was conflict again between India and China as China could come
into the Indo- Gangetic plain using Nepalese territory. The other threats we
talk about are terrorism and fake currency can be connected to the open border.
The short point I want to make is that India’s security concerns are very
important in viewing this relationship. You can argue by saying that China is
not a threat but an opportunity.
If
there is any internal disorder or law and order problem in Madhes , a region
contiguous with India, the problems can spill over into India. The British
Foreign and Commonwealth Office of 1903 said that if there is any disorder
inside Nepal the spillover will trickle into India. It will furthermore have
negative effect on the strategic Indo-Gangetic plain. During the Maoist Movement
years, hundreds of thousands of people had been displaced and they came into
India.
The
army to army relations are a very big constituency. After the 7th Pay
Commission, the salary of the soldier will be equivalent to that a
middle-ranking officer of the Nepal Army. The 7th Pay Commission and the One
Rank One Pension have done great things for the Indian Army, and by extension,
the Nepalese who serve in the Indian Army. People in India think that Nepalese who
work in the Indian Army are Indian Nepalese. For the first time, we have raised
a Gorkha Battalion constituting of only Nepalese from India.
Your
leaders say why should Nepalese join the Indian Army? Well, in India many
Indian born Nepalese are looking for jobs. In the future, Nepalese may decide
not to join the Indian Army. But for the time being, army to army relations
between Nepal and India are very strong. Nepali concerns The relation between
India and Nepal should be more equal. India should not micromanage Nepal. This
is something that has to be understood by both sides and India should be
cognizant of the fact that this is an irritant for Nepal.
Revision
of Treaties
India
unilaterally revised the Treaty with Bhutan. If Nepal wants these treaties to
be reviewed, if not revised, then it must be done. Pashupati JBR once said,
concerning the 1950 Treaty, “let sleeping dogs lie”. The revision of treaties
is something that must be addressed cautiously. Rishikesh Shaha once gave me a
map of Nepal and told me that in 1921 the Tri-Junction Kalapani area was given
by Chandra Shumsher JBR to the British. There was a joint working group that
was set up to resolve the dispute during I.K Gujarat's time.
Question: How do we restore
the friendly relationship between Nepal and India?
Answer: Prime Minister Oli
said there are some misunderstandings between India and Nepal without talking
about the blockade. Mr. Oli said that the misunderstandings have been removed. However,
I do not think that is the case. The blockade was a very serious mistake.
Whoever was actually responsible for the blockade, the people of Nepal think
that India did it. Both the governments have to go about to rectify the
perception in the minds of Nepalis.
Question: Does India want
Nepal to be a Hindu country or to return to monarchy?
Answer: It is up to the
people of Nepal. In their constitution, Nepal has chosen to be a democratic, federal,
secular republic. Now, if Nepal holds a referendum to become a Hindu republic
or a monarchy, India would not be unhappy with that. Don’t forget what work the
Indian Army did during the earthquake. It is a positive thing. India made
mistakes in the way it handled the constitution and the economic blockade;
these have to be rectified.
India
must assist the way forward, after we have removed these misunderstandings.
India must assist Nepal in its economic development. The potential of Nepal has
not been tapped because political stability has eluded this country. Unfortunately,
the features of the new constitution also do not auger well for political
stability.
I
will end by saying that India remains Nepal’s best friend. We have made
problems on both sides and that have to be rectified. India must assist in the
economic development of Nepal, particularly in the fields of hydropower,
tourism and natural resources. Relations between the two countries must be
restored to the high pedestal that they were in before because the mutuality of
relations is so important.
Question: Is there a
consensus in Delhi among the agencies regarding Nepal?
Answer: I don’t think there
is any conflict in Delhi. There hasn’t been a proper appreciation of the
changes that have taken place. Our Foreign Office still thinks this is the old
Nepal and I have spent some time trying to explain the new political dynamics.
Because our understanding is not correct, we have misunderstandings. The
situation in Nepal is still dynamic. There are problems with your constitution
and India has concerns with that but it has not expressed those concerns in the
proper diplomatic way.
Question: India looks at
Nepal’s linkages with China from a security perspective. However, we in Nepal
want to develop relations with China for developmental and economic reasons.
How can India address its security concerns without hampering the economic
development of Nepal?
Answer: It is your
sovereign right that you take advantage of these two economies. In the old
days, we had an understanding at the highest levels that the Terai is the
red-line. If you recall, the East-West Highway was being made and the lowest
bidder of the Western region was a Chinese company. India objected to that and
expressed its reservation to King Birendra. King Birendra cancelled the contract
and awarded it to an Indian company. The understanding was that the Nepalese
would not allow the Chinese to penetrate into the Terai. I am not saying that
the same red line is to be maintained. India and Nepal can now discuss this.
Question:
Is
there scope for trilateral relations between Nepal, India and China?
Answer:
India-China
relations are sustained on trade. With respect to Nepal, we are concerned that
we are losing political space to China. We would rather be dealing bilaterally
with Nepal. This is something that needs further discussion.
Question: Indian relations
towards Nepal are sometimes regarded as having double standards.
What
is your view on this?
Answer: Yes, that is why
there is a misunderstanding between Nepal and India. On the question of Madhesis,
there are legitimate concerns that are going to be addressed now. The fact that
you have parliamentary amendments addresses those points. As an immediate and
very important neighbor, ndia pointed
out those points which are also connected with bilateral relations between the
two countries and their own security concerns. The manner in which they were addressed
was not right.